Is there a way to create custom cable decorations in Creo Schematics 2.0.
If so how?
We are looking at wanting to have a dual shielded cable to be represented by using 2 dashed lines not one.
Custom Cable Decorations?
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Cables and Wires suddenly changing diameter
We have an odd scenario where a user noticed that they opened their cable assembly and the cables and wires appeared to have the wrong diameter. In some cases, they were huge (elephantitis as described). In a more recent case, they were extremely thin. The routings however were the same meaning that a packed series of wires were still spaced as if they were of the correct diameter. Inspecting the spool parameters showed that the spool assigned to the wires was in fact the correct diameter. Very odd. We even had cases were two different users were looking at the same assembly. One saw it and the other did not. I was able to see the model preview before opening the assembly where the diameters were correct but as soon as the assembly was retrieved, the diameters shrunk and became very thin. Does anyone know what is causing this? I cannot seem to find the issue described anywhere.
Using Creo 2.0.
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Northern California Companies Using Creo Schematics
I'm be interested in discussing Creo Schematics and usage with companies in Northern California.
We are currently use Creo Schematics to drive Pro Cabling and some wiring and block diagrams and
are going to transition to even more usage.
Please contact me if your interested in sharing your Creo Schematic stories, how you implemented the product etc.
Thanks
Ray Iaea
Electrical Designer
Lawrence Livermore Nat'l Laboratory
Livermore, CA 94550
925-423-2960
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CREO SCHEMATICS NIGHTMARE
Is anybody using Creo Schematics?
if so, do you know what is the main market for this product?
I just want to share this in order to see what other users think about.
I got it last year however it seems to be toought to do what I want to do. I have to do schematics for control boxes, junction boxes and things like that.
So I need to use terminal blocks with up 4 conencting points, however it seems to be impossible with CREO SCHEMATICS.
I select a double side connector but it only allows me to connect up to 3 wires (2 in one side and 1 on the other side) so waht about my 4th wire? I have to use a free point connection in order to fix but the Creo Schematics is expensive and that simple thing is not possible (at least not in a easy way).
next thing.
The bundle cables: the library has a tamplate for up to 3 conductors (which is nothing in most cases) however does not have a way to set the numbers of conductors you need (that is bad).
OK then you create your own bundle cables with the conductors needed and it has a specific size and leght of conductors. The problem is when you need to use it in a different sheet. Once you insert this in a new sheet and you want to make it bigger (or smaller) you are in trouble, the position of the connections are separated to the new distance however the conductors/wire stays at the same place.making look it bad.
if you want to adjust the wire to the new position it is a nightmare you can not get a straight line again the vertex decided where to go by itself so iIended up making a new wire again my point here is that CREO Schematics is an expesive software and should help instead of make things worst.
next thing
trying to draw something: it is tought surely. if you need to draw a shape of a new part, it is tought, I have draft sight for free, so I draw whatever i want to do then I import the drawing to Creo schematics. Do you think this is OK.?
you have to draw in a free software becuase it is way easier then import the draw in an expensive software, unbelive.
I have tried the elearnig triaining however they never show any real aplication, they only shows how to connect a buzzer, what CREO Schematics does not know is that most companies does not only install buzzer in their systems.
I apprecite any comments about
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how to insert one more in the middle and get updated?
Hello world,
I would like to get some advise on how I can do the following.
I have my schematics completed, in this I have my own artifact which is a terminal block. so all of them are already wired to a lead.
I have 100 of my own terminal blocks(TB), they go from left to right. (1 to 100) then I realize I need one more just after terminal block number 30 but I do not need to disconnect what is in TB31 to 100.
ok I insert a new one which pops up labeled as TB101 but It will be after TB30 and I would like that will be TB31 and the rest get updated from TB32 to TB101
I just do not know how to do this, How can I say ok from here to here these are your new´s tag?
in other words it is like in Excel, if you insert a new row or column you can do that and all positions get updated.
mmm now thinking about this I guess I may have to create my TB as groups but I think I still will not be able to said where I want to insert the new one
I appreciate any advise on this
Regards
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Drawing in Creo Schematics
I am new to Creo Schematics. I went through the LMS tutorials and got 94% on the assessment.
Now, I'm trying to generate my first live schematic. I have the library of IEEE symbols from Virtual Interconnect. Many interesting components, unfortunately, I need to do diagrams for wiring harnesses and 90% of what's in that library doesn't work for me.
So, I want to draw my own circuit symbols. We won't be using wiring diagrams as such.
My first attempt was to make a symbol for a double fuse holder as a group so I could place the two sections anywhere. TO do this, I need to place two arcs to make the fuse shape.
Neither of the two arc selections in the geometry tab seem to work. I get an error "Operation only valid in EDIT mode" when I try to draw. I can draw lines and boxes all day without errors.
Does anyone have a link to a true tutorial on how to draw in Creo Schematics? THe on-line tutorials are sorely lacking in details of how to do things from scratch. Making sheet templates with a company logo should be easy - once you are shown the secret.
Also - I have looked and looked for a book - actual paper pages in a binding - on Creo Schematics. I have found a few on Creo 2.0, concerning 3D model creation, but nothing for Schematics. Any suggestions? In particular, I want something that explains which parameters are critical in Schematic to link with Creo 2.0 cabling.
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Creo Schematics to Drawing.
Hi, I know this is not logical but still I am curious to know is there any way which we can have the Cable /wire list information on the drawings with out routing in Creo cabling. I got this question by seeing recently that in Creo Schematics 2.0 we are running term tables and because of this most of the information required for this table like Wire number, Connector, spool, From, To, etc information is available in XML file, except the length of the wire. So by assuming that I don't want to know length of the wires, is it possible to show the other information on the Creo Drawing.
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Central Catalog on shared drive
We have been successful in having outside collaborators share our Central Catalog, however we have noticed a few things.
Using VPN for an outside collaborator, maybe an issue with speed. The Schematics app is seems slow when it accesses the CC and when we drop in a 15pair cable it takes about 30 seconds to a minute to do something.
Is this normal?
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Sample Creo Schematics P&ID symbols?
I was looking for the sample Creo Schematics P&ID symbols that come with Creo Schematics. Now I know that if you didn't start with a template in RSD
they automatically came up in the design, but no luck in Creo Schematics. Any ideas where to load from?
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Running a newer version of Creo Schematics to create diagrams for an older version of Parametric
The best way to explain my issue is a narrative: So I bought Creo Parametric a few years ago, paid for the first year of maintenance, then let the maintenance run out. This year, we bought the Piping and Cabling extension, paid maintenance for that, and applied the piping extension to the version of Creo we're running, 1.0. Now, on my software downloads page, the only download available --aside from Parametric-- is Creo Schematic 3.0.
For one, can I even run Schematic 3.0 with our 1.0 base license (I CAN run the piping extension within Creo 1.0 with the license they sent, no problem there)? The error I'm getting when setting up Schematic 3.0 is shown below with the sales # blocked out (I tried it on "Simple License Entry" as well).
Secondly, am I going to run into any issues creating diagrams for Parametric 1.0 using Schematics 3.0?
You would think if you call PTC Tech Support and tell them what you bought, they'd install the whole thing for you rather than just one part of it.... especially since they charge so much for the maintenance I've never actually used after initially setting up Creo. But no, I've called twice, granted remote access twice, and still don't have the entire thing installed (this AFTER they had to correct and resend the first license file they sent over). I've never had this much trouble simply installing a software add-on before. Tech support is helpful and friendly, but not very effective or receptive to your overall needs.
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Striped wires in Creo Schematic and cabling
Are their any plans to support striped wires in Creo Schematics or Creo Cabling in the future? I realize there are work arounds, but that isn't the question.
Right now you can just fake the text in Schematics and route only a solid color in Cabling.
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We are going to make the transition from AutoCAD to Creo Schematics...somehow.
Our electrical design team has been an offsite collaborator for a while now supporting a very large project that is in it's senior years. We have been using AutoCAD (their preferred tool) for all electrical designs system wide.
Our team has been given the task to not only learn Creo Schematics, but figure out the best way to merge it into our design process.
I have begun converting some existing wiring diagrams into a Creo design while doing so I have been creating and submitting aritfacts to a central catalog and it is this that has me thinking, "How can we use this tool the way it is meant to be used at this stage of the game?"
We have an existing component database of close to 40,000 components, 90% of which are electrical. How does one even start to create a catalog this large?
At this point I think using our designs to route 3D cables is not of any importance. The main objective is to USE Creo Schematics instead of AutoCAD.
I guess I would like to get others opinions on can we use Schematics how it was meant to be used, with a Central Catalog consisting of datatables, datasets and artifacts reflect all of our components?
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Can't route an the overall cable diameter, but conductors route
I'm having an issue.
On shielded cables that have pairs, somehow the conductors route, but not the overall cable diameter. Any ideas? 
I have attached by datatable, membermap and XML file.
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Cable won't see network when routing
I'm routing a cable that splits off into 2 connectors. The problem is it won't route using "via network"
It shows the simple cable route path. This is weird. It worked fine in the old Creo I thought. Any ideas?
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Route multiple wires to one pin
How can you route more than one wire to the same pin in a connector? When I try I get an error that reads "cannot route more than one cable to WIRE entry port." I have seen models that have two wires in the same entry port.
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Multi level Cables versus Single level Cables
I'm looking for more pros and cons on this issue. We have discovered an issue with Multilevel cables.
On Multilevel cables, Creo Parametric "does not" read the cable diameter and minimum bend radius ! It is a known issue that the thickness and min_bend_radius is not brought over. The recommendations is to use assign_min_bend and assign_thickness on the <name>- item in the model tree.
I find this sad that this hasn't been fixed yet. 
It's also interesting that Multi level cables are now overbraids and they don't autoroute. I'm sure there are some reason behind this, that I won't go into. There are some tweaks you have to do in order to manually route the overall diameter, but the diameter is not correct and you have to mess with parameters listed above, basically making the darn thing "non parametric".
This has a big impact on our shielded cable shapes with pairs. Because of this, we are leaning towards creating all of our cable shapes as single level
and removing the pairs and just the cable cosmetics to show the pairs. What are the draw backs doing it this way? One thing I see as you move pins around the cable cosmetics will get messy.
Please chime in if you have some comments on this.
Thanks
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Minneapolis/St Paul user group?
Are there any other Schematics users in the area that would like to share what they are doing and what they have learned?
There is a lot to learn in Schematics and sometimes bouncing ideas off others in person or seeing how other people do things can help.
Bill Fuhrmann
The Toro Company
We are just starting with hibred schematics for vehicle (most of our stuff is much larger than the consumer lawn mowers and snow throwers) harnesses.
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how to design a pipe for two different id/od size
i need to place a hose pipe having two different od size. please suggest guide line
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Cable won't see network when routing
I'm routing a cable that splits off into 2 connectors. The problem is it won't route using "via network"
It shows the simple cable route path. This is weird. It worked fine in the old Creo I thought. Any ideas?
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Multi level Cables versus Single level Cables
I'm looking for more pros and cons on this issue. We have discovered an issue with Multilevel cables.
On Multilevel cables, Creo Parametric "does not" read the cable diameter and minimum bend radius ! It is a known issue that the thickness and min_bend_radius is not brought over. The recommendations is to use assign_min_bend and assign_thickness on the <name>- item in the model tree.
I find this sad that this hasn't been fixed yet.
It's also interesting that Multi level cables are now overbraids and they don't autoroute. I'm sure there are some reason behind this, that I won't go into. There are some tweaks you have to do in order to manually route the overall diameter, but the diameter is not correct and you have to mess with parameters listed above, basically making the darn thing "non parametric".
This has a big impact on our shielded cable shapes with pairs. Because of this, we are leaning towards creating all of our cable shapes as single level
and removing the pairs and just the cable cosmetics to show the pairs. What are the draw backs doing it this way? One thing I see as you move pins around the cable cosmetics will get messy.
Please chime in if you have some comments on this.
Thanks
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